Say Billy doesn’t want to lose his hair. Baldness runs in his family, muscle doesn’t, and we have a fellow seasoned juicer. Billy thinks that he will just take some primobolan or winstrol to avoid his hair loss while juicing because some buddies at the gym told him that they are not “androgens”. As we know, every single anabolic steroid has some androgenic properties. It is just how much. To complicate the situation, Billy is unaware that primobolan and winstrol are both DHT derivatives. This means that they are close enough in chemical structure to act like DHT in the body, even though they are not known as androgenic drugs.